I am also a LEED-AP, which is unambiguous in what it represents and
has an increasingly larger visibility in the area of sustainability.
It doesn't really prove much more than my ability to memorize a lot of
information for a computer-based exam, but it can definitely open
doors for my career path.
Years ago, I had studied very diligently for the PMP and was ready to
sit for the exam, but I was bothered by all the online discussion
focused on *passing* the PMP. I began to question its real value and
ultimately decided against it. I am confident that I was fully
prepared to pass the exam, but I opted out on principle. Since nobody
really seems to care about a project management certification in my
field, I wasn't risking much. If a PMP was important for me, I would
collect the letters just to open the necessary doors.
One more example -- in the field of energy engineering, the
Association for Energy Engineers offers a Certified Energy Manager
(CEM) credential. Within this field the credential is well-
recognized, despite the fact that relatively few people hold the
credential. The credentialing process is not as rigorous as the PE,
but certainly much more so than for the PMP, and it provides benefit
for me in my career. There are a number of other energy- related
credentials out there, but CEM is the most widely recognized of the
lot. Unfortunately there seems to be a number of CEM credentials out
there which cover very diverse fields, so to the general public CEM is
all but meaningless.
In all of these cases, I have a high level of competency in the
particular areas, but the value of any of the 'letters' depends
largely on how it is perceived by others. So my conclusion is --
don't jump on a bandwagon just to collect the same letters everyone
else is getting. Make sure you are competent in the necessary areas,
and be selective about pursuing credentials which are recognized and
will benefit you.
On Mar 24, 11:52 am, "Dr. Paul D. Giammalvo" <pauldg...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Wise enough advice, Charles, but you must admit, certain "letters" like PE
> or PhD or MD or CPA usually indicate SOME level of competency....... Not
> perfect, but certainly better than average?
>
> The ones I worry most about are those like the PMP...... When the
> credential has been oversold (promises much more than can possibly be
> delivered) then it makes a mockery of all initials......
>
> But I fully and totally agree- in the end, the ONLY thing that matters is
> COMPETENCY......
>
> Yet, the true competency credentials tend to languish while the "faux"
> credentials like the PMP and even worse yet, PRINCE2, proliferate......
>
> If competency is what you truly believe in, then check out asapmwww.asapm.orgor CMAA's Certified Construction Managerwww.cmaanet.orgor
> the work we have done at GAPPS on competency standards for project and
> program managers..... www.globalpmstandards.org
>
> Bottom line- there are a LOT of viable and very credible alternatives to the
> PMP, and when people are serious about becoming professional practitioners
> and not just collectors of initials for the sake of having them....
>
> BR,
> Dr. PDG, Jakartahttp://www.build-project-management-competency.com-----Original Message-----
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The ones I worry most about are those like the PMP...... When the
credential has been oversold (promises much more than can possibly be
delivered) then it makes a mockery of all initials......
But I fully and totally agree- in the end, the ONLY thing that matters is
COMPETENCY......
Yet, the true competency credentials tend to languish while the "faux"
credentials like the PMP and even worse yet, PRINCE2, proliferate......
If competency is what you truly believe in, then check out asapm
www.asapm.org or CMAA's Certified Construction Manager www.cmaanet.org or
the work we have done at GAPPS on competency standards for project and
program managers..... www.globalpmstandards.org
Bottom line- there are a LOT of viable and very credible alternatives to the
PMP, and when people are serious about becoming professional practitioners
and not just collectors of initials for the sake of having them....
BR,
Dr. PDG, Jakarta
http://www.build-project-management-competency.com
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Subject: PMHUB-G Re: Risk Management Certifications
On Mar 23, 6:39 am, "Asif Kadiwala" <asifk...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
...
> Can you please discuss which certification is better suited for a Project
Management Practitioner working on Construction Projects of limited to high
complexity.
...
When a certification is not obviously recognized within a particular
industry then I think you have to question the real value of that
certification. There are so many niche options out there which sound
interesting when you look into them, but with which very few people are
familiar.
If your business card lists 'FRM/ERM' (for example), how many people who see
your card:
1. recognize that credential immediately, and 2. understand what the
credential means, or 3. care enough to look into identifying the credential,
and most importantly, 4. are convinced that it is directly relevant to the
work you can do for them?
My preference is to instead focus on acquiring the knowledge, skills and
experience which are relevant to your chosen field, and then indicate this
competence with your accomplishments. If you really want a certification,
go for the one which is most widely recognized and still consistent with the
competencies you are hoping to convey -- but don't rely on a few letters
after your name to convince me that you are good at something.
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When a certification is not obviously recognized within a particular
industry then I think you have to question the real value of that
certification. There are so many niche options out there which sound
interesting when you look into them, but with which very few people
are familiar.
If your business card lists 'FRM/ERM' (for example), how many people
who see your card:
1. recognize that credential immediately, and
2. understand what the credential means, or
3. care enough to look into identifying the credential,
and most importantly,
4. are convinced that it is directly relevant to the work you can do
for them?
My preference is to instead focus on acquiring the knowledge, skills
and experience which are relevant to your chosen field, and then
indicate this competence with your accomplishments. If you really
want a certification, go for the one which is most widely recognized
and still consistent with the competencies you are hoping to convey --
but don't rely on a few letters after your name to convince me that
you are good at something.
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Hi Asif,
First, you CANNOT separate or isolate risk from cost or schedule or quality or scope or HR or communications or contracts…… Risk is EMBEDDED in each and every one of them. So to try to focus on risk one needs to be proficient and competent in all the other areas.
Having said that, the “best” certification for construction is, IMPO, the Construction Management Association of America (CMAA) Certified Construction Manager. (CCM) http://www.cmaanet.org/ If you prefer not to subscribe to US standards, then the UK’s Chartered Institute of Builders (CIOB) http://www.ciob.org.uk/home has a credible program as well.
Bottom line- coming from a background in construction, I think you will find PMI’s credentials to be somewhat sophomoric.
Hope this helps you?
BR,
Dr. PDG, Jakarta
http://www.build-project-management-competency.com
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 6:39 PM
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Subject: PMHUB-G Risk Management Certifications
Dear PMHUB Members,
Greetings,
There are various Risk Management certifications available. Among them, few are rated good which are:
1. Global Association of Risk Professionals (GARP) – FRM / ERM
2. Professional Risk Managers International Association (PRMIA) – PRM
3. Bankers Association Institute (BAI) – CRP (specially for Risk managers in financial services)
Can you please discuss which certification is better suited for a Project Management Practitioner working on Construction Projects of limited to high complexity.
After going through various literatures available on the net, the Risk Management certification available from PMI, i.e. PMI-RMP, I feel, is narrow in scope. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks & Regards
Asif S. Kadiwala BE,GDCPM,PMP,CCE,PSP
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Dear PMHUB Members,
Greetings,
There are various Risk Management certifications available. Among them, few are rated good which are:
1. Global Association of Risk Professionals (GARP) – FRM / ERM
2. Professional Risk Managers International Association (PRMIA) – PRM
3. Bankers Association Institute (BAI) – CRP (specially for Risk managers in financial services)
Can you please discuss which certification is better suited for a Project Management Practitioner working on Construction Projects of limited to high complexity.
After going through various literatures available on the net, the Risk Management certification available from PMI, i.e. PMI-RMP, I feel, is narrow in scope. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks & Regards
Asif S. Kadiwala BE,GDCPM,PMP,CCE,PSP
Do you think you are in the top 2% of competent project managers?
Are you ready to move beyond your PMP?
Are you willing to challenge yourself to a much more technical and in depth approach to project management?
Are you ready to learn how portfolio, program and project management all work together using an Asset Management Model?
If the answer to any of these questions is YES, then we have the challenge you are seeking.
PTMC/APMX is pleased to announce that our next BLENDED LEARNING (combined face to face and distance learning mode) courses will be kicking off the week of May 3 - 7, 2010. This course is 6 months long and will prepare you to sit on Saturday, November 6th for one or MORE of the following certifications:
Certified Cost Consultant/Certified Cost Engineer (CCC/E) http://www.aacei.org/certification/CCC/welcome.shtml
Cost Estimating Professional (CEP) http://www.aacei.org/certification/CEP/welcome.shtml
Earned Value Professional (EVP) http://www.aacei.org/certification/EVP/welcome.shtml
Planning and Scheduling Professional (PSP) http://www.aacei.org/certification/PSP/welcome.shtml
The PTMC/APMX course is a GRADUATE level course, which qualifies for 6 US or 10 EU hours of TRANSFERABLE graduate level credit from the SKEMA School of Business http://www.skema.edu/en (SKEMA is EQUIS and PMI Accredited)
For more information, email Ms. Yani Suratman, President Director of PTMC/APMX, yanis@ptmc-apmx.com
Looking forward to seeing you in class!!
BR,
Dr. PDG, Jakarta
Dr. Paul D. Giammalvo, CDT, CCE, MScPM, MRICS,
Senior Technical Advisor, PT Mitratata Citragraha, Jakarta/Singapore/Anchorage/Amsterdam/Johannesburg www.build-project-management-competency.com
Adjunct Professor, Project/Program Management, SKEMA School of Business, Paris, FRANCE www.skema.edu/en
Curriculum Development Consultant/Adjunct Professor, Asset and Project Management, University of Western Australia, Perth, www.blendedlearning.ecm.uwa.edu.au
Board of Directors, Global Alliance for Project Performance Standards (GAPPS) Sydney, AUSTRALIA www.globalpmstandards.org
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